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Hi, my name is Graeme McRae, and this is my User talk page. If you want to get my attention, please click here to leave me a new message. Then watch the page; I'll reply right here. Thanks!
GraemeMcRaetalk 13:50, 16 Nov 2005 (EST)

Deletion Process

Please see User talk:Sam Odio#Deleting pages. — "Bear" 08:24, 17 Nov 2005 (EST)

Thanks!—GraemeMcRaetalk 10:10, 17 Nov 2005 (EST)


Perhaps I've mentioned that I'm rather protective of templatespace. We have no graven policy regarding templates -- or much of anything, yet -- so please don't think I resort to authority; only to what appears to me to be good practice.

My immediate concern is the group of HDR-foo templates, e.g. Template:HDR training log. I'm afraid I don't see that these are of any benefit to the community as a whole. I'd like to ask you to consider moving them to your own userspace, or possibly to mainspace. I'm sure you already know that the template transclusion mechanism works equally well on all pages. If you need any help with the move, feel free to ask.

I see no problem with the templates {{edit}} and {{editsection}}; but it's not clear to me how they should be used. Would you be so kind as to document them? I have imported {{doctl}} for this purpose.

Thank You!"Bear" 05:56, 21 Nov 2005 (EST)

Sure, Bear, I understand. I thought by beginning all my special-purpose templates with HDR I was staying out of everyone's way, but I don't mind at all moving them into the mainspace. I'll change their names to begin HDRT (T for Template). With this naming convention, I'll only throw away one more character (the T) for the sake of staying out of people's way and another (the colon) to transclude the template from the mainspace. A very small price to pay (and I'm glad to pay it) for wiki community harmony!
As for documenting edit and editsection, sure. I'll be glad to do that. Thanks for drawing my attention to {{doctl}}. I'm glad you mentioned this now, because I was thinking about making some new templates! I'll try to get to these changes today.—GraemeMcRaetalk 10:43, 21 Nov 2005 (EST)

Thanks for moving. If I had more to worry about, I'd probably have said nothing about your templates. I agree that contiguous blocks of namespace are much more respectful than spreading all over, and if that HDR stuff was a bit more general, again I'd have said nothing. I just like structure; what can I say?

Good docs on {{edit}}. I suspect you share my annoyance with the limitations of the transclusion mechanism. It bugs me no end that unsupplied parameters default to placeholders; even the null string would be a step up. Free development is worth what you pay for it. I so wish somebody would start a wiki with a business model. — "Bear" 17:10, 22 Nov 2005 (EST)

Sysop Privileges

Graeme, Please take a look at The role of a sysop & its talk page. Is this something you would be interested in doing? If so, leave me a note. --Sam Odio 20:11, 4 December 2005 (EST)

Hi, Sam. I will be happy to contribute from time to time, but I can't promise how regular my work will be, or how long I'll hang around. Based on this stunning lack of commitment, I wouldn't expect you to confer many additional powers on me at this time. However, I think it would be good to have some people who could "patrol" recent changes, and as a service to the community, mark legitimate edits as "patrolled". I don't know how to do this, or if it takes extra powers, but I would be happy to help in this area, time permitting.
One point that has been made (in Wikipedia, I think) about requiring users to log in first before allowing them to edit is that this may make vandalism harder to detect, rather than easier. (Same logic goes for requiring an edit comment) The reason: most vandalism is done by users who aren't logged in, and who don't write any edit comment.—GraemeMcRaetalk 13:27, 5 December 2005 (EST)

Hi Graeme. Fantastic what you are doing on the web page. Hope your holidays were great and that you see people coming on with the new year for marathon training. I took time off to let a hamstring heal so I've had nearly a month off-running and on-eating instead. Started back on Hangover Run to try easing back into things. Good luck on LA. Phil Sinclair

Marie Kerr Park course distance


Could you tell me the distance of the Marie Kerr Park track or, maybe a better question, how many times do you have to run the track to equal 5k?

Thank you,


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