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== Sysop Role, Linkspam ==
 
== Sysop Role, Linkspam ==
  
I've replied at [[Talk:The role of a sysop]]. — [[User talk:Bear|"Bear"]] 19:49, 3 December 2005 (EST)
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I've replied at [[Talk:The role of a sysop]].
 
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== Sysop? ==
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Quick question, was the message you left for me on my talk page aimed at Graeme, myself or both? Just want to be sure before I formulate a response. Also BTW thanks again for the TeX help the other day. [[User:Chotchki|Chotchki]] 23:30, 4 December 2005 (EST)
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:Replied on your talk page. --[[User:Sam Odio|Sam Odio]] 02:33, 5 December 2005 (EST)
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::Having considered it carefully, I have decided to accept the request to become a sysop. Fair warning though I am not sure how consistent I will be able to patrol the wiki.[[User:Chotchki|Chotchki]] 19:40, 5 December 2005 (EST)
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== Permanant Centered Content ==
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http://bluwiki.org/go/User:VelaAdministrator/Solterran_Alliance is one of my subpages and for some unknown reason I can't fix the problem that all of the content is all centered. What can I do to fix this problem?
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[[User:VelaAdministrator|VelaAdministrator]] 11:40, 15 December 2005 (EST)
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: Checked that page both while logged out and while logged in (using Cologne Blue skin). Don't see any problem, page renders normally. ''Sorry.'' Are you using another skin and/or have you edited your stylesheet? — [[User talk:Bear|"Bear"]] 13:42, 17 December 2005 (EST)
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== IP Blocking ==
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May I suggest you reconsider your IP blocking strategy? I see you have blocked a large number of IPs with no expiration -- that is, they are indefinitely blocked. You'll notice that I've also blocked a couple of IPs, but with a 1 month expiry.
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At some point, it is more likely that a given IP will be reused by an innocent user than that the original spammer will re-attack using the same IP. Modem users generally get a new IP assigned every day; DSL and cable broadband users may stay with the same IP for several weeks, but eventually disconnect for some reason or another and, when reconnecting, will get a new IP. The only users who get true static IPs (generally speaking) are businesses with T1 or better connections. Most spammers anticipate IP blocking wherever they go, so they actually prefer dynamic IPs.
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So, to avoid the scenario in which innocent new users aren't able to connect to BluWiki, I suggest blocking with an expiry of 1 month or less. Of course, recurring attacks from the same IP over time demand an extended expiry, but even so, 1 year should be more than sufficient. — [[User talk:Bear|"Bear"]] 11:43, 29 December 2005 (EST)
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:Good points... I'll start blocking w/ a 1 month expiry.  If we get repeat spam from the ips.. than we can work something out.  --[[User:Sam Odio|Sam Odio]] 11:37, 1 January 2006 (EST)
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== Spam ==
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Do you think it would be wise for us to make a template about repeat spam pages (the notorious ones) and then just protect them for a week as an experiment? [[User:Chotchki|Chotchki]] 00:12, 5 January 2006 (EST)
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:Yah I think it's something to explore.  I've wondered if it would work to protect these pages (like [[BluWiki:Community Portal]]) and instead make tempaltes that users can edit like [[Template:Community Portal Welcome]] or whatever.  Also, I've been protecting the pages that nobody uses and have been spammed repeatively (e.g. [[User_talk:212.130.26.104]].
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::Or better yet, is there a way to protect a page from unlogged in edits? That would still solve the issue and not inconvience us too much. [[User:Chotchki|Chotchki]] 23:40, 5 January 2006 (EST)
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::: Well, this is one of those political issues. Over on [[WP]], the radicals are firmly in charge; despite continuous major vandalism, they refuse to demand that users log in before editing. One reviwer (in the print media) called this a "no-brainer"; I agree it's an obvious precaution. '''No edits from anon IP users''' -- not to any page. — [[User talk:Bear|"Bear"]] 13:30, 16 January 2006 (EST)
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::: I am also in support of edits (or at least new pages) only from logged-in users. OpenWetWare (http://openwetware.org/) successfully does this (it's infact more strict - you've got to mail the admin for an account.. but that's way too complicated) —[[User:Karthik|Karthik]] 03:08, 20 January 2006 (EST)
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== Motto Restart ==
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Now that [[user:Chotchki|Chotchki]] has weighed in on the motto debate, I changed the BluWiki motto to '''Your Wiki Homestead'''. It may not be perfect, but it's a heckuva sight better than what we had. The motto string is stored at [[MediaWiki:Sitesubtitle]]. Would you be kind enough to restart the server? I think the motto is loaded at boot; changing the string doesn't change anything right away. — [[User talk:Bear|"Bear"]] 13:08, 16 January 2006 (EST)
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While in the neighborhood, I also changed every instance of '''Project:''' to '''BluWiki:''' in all system messages. These should also all reload on server boot. Now, for instance, when deleting a page, you'll be reminded to ''Please confirm ... you are doing this in accordance with BluWiki:Policy'' '''not''' ''... Project:Policy''. — [[User talk:Bear|"Bear"]] 13:25, 16 January 2006 (EST)
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:Sounds good.. I'll reboot tonight --[[User:Sam Odio|Sam Odio]] 20:36, 16 January 2006 (EST)
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That did it; the new motto is up (using Cologne Blue skin). Cool! — [[User talk:Bear|"Bear"]] 02:12, 17 January 2006 (EST)
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== Google AdSense ==
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I'm trying to run an AdSense ad, which requires the inclusion of a [[JavaScript]] call. ''(See: [[Template:Mpodgoo]].)'' This doesn't work, because the engine cleverly comments out the script call. Take a look at the page source -- ''not'' the wiki markup, but the HTML source for the rendered page, which your browser will display (with '''Show Source''' or some such).
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Will you consider permitting the ad to run? Profit is a good thing, and we can negotiate your cut. — [[User talk:Bear|"Bear"]] 13:39, 16 January 2006 (EST)
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:You can put whatever ads you wish on your page... although I am not sure how feasible it is to enable javascript as it would be a security hole - have to think on that one --[[User:Sam Odio|Sam Odio]] 20:33, 16 January 2006 (EST)
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Well... security on an open wiki is something like a lock on the door of a house with no glass in the windows. There is, of course, an unlimited number of ways that fools can muck things up, with or without JS. Perhaps the more serious concern is that bad JS might screw things up for the user, the viewer of a page. I tried running AdSense over on my PBWiki; it displays okay, so I suppose they've decided it's not a problem. PBWiki runs on a pretty cheesy engine, though; not my first choice.
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Google is the most realistic way to monetize traffic for the small site; and they serve their ads only one way -- in a large number of flavors, but always via their little script. Is there some way we can accomodate them? — [[User talk:Bear|"Bear"]] 02:21, 17 January 2006 (EST)
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=IPs to Block=
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Sam, you might want to have a watch on IP 201.145.204.83 and block it in the future. [http://www.bluwiki.org/index.php?title=Special:Contributions&target=201.145.204.83 Edits from this IP]
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=testing=
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testing system response time
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knto.pl
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